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Sunday, November 06, 2011

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matt

Hello,

This is completely off-topic from your fabulous first installment of a history of Beckett and Henry, but how might I find the History of England on facebook? I've accidentally found your personal profile, and I'm assuming you don't want blog followers like myself 'friending' you.

Unless this is indeed the profile to which you allude each podcast? http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001388309010

Thanks a bunch for all your wonderful, thorough and gratis work!

Nancy

I also wanted to know how to find you on Facebook. I adore your podcast and would find it much easier to comment on Facebook.
By the way you have the most charming accent! :)

David Crowther

Hi Nancy. I like the whole Facebook commenting thing - but have a bit of a struggle to understand and use it properly...

Thanks for the comment on the accent - I have to tell you that listening to myself is excrutiating. Surely that can't be the way I sound!? But I'm beginning to get used to it...

The History of England

Hi Matt - sorry, suffering from a senior moment; I thought I'd replied earlier to your comment. The summary is that I have found facebook a bit difficult to work with; they don't seem to allow you to link to a page. So there is a page I've set up, which is here . . .. be great to have you join it, and thanks for the very kind comments.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-History-of-England/177372332295283?sk=wall

Rob Shinnick

Ahh, yes. Henry and Becket. This at least is something I actually DID learn about in school. Here in the Deep South of the USA, we don't get a lot of English or European history in our public schooling, really, but I do remember covering this. (In English class, though, not World History). It's been more than a quarter century since I've heard any of it, so it's not old hat at all. It was interesting enough at the time for me to still remember just a bit of it. As a high school student, I enjoyed senior English class because we covered things like this (as they related to Literature, I suppose). And we got to watch films instead of reading dull textbooks (aha- maybe THAT's why some of it stuck). Naturally we got exposed to a little Shakespeare around then, too, and, (oddly enough), Greek Mythology. Why Greek mythology in English class I dunno, but I enjoyed it. (Again, I guess it was pigeonholed with Literature somehow.)

Jim Roberts

Henry II clearly was a tyrant. His manner of dealing with Becket at the Council of Northampton October 1164 without doubt shows him to have been one. Maybe later he relented, after Thomas had been declared a martyr, but still, like all of his ilk, both the Normans and Plantagenets, these were all robber barons of the nastiest type, true to their Viking nature, from whom they all descend.

The History of England

Hi Jim..well yes, I accept that Henry II was an autocrat, and pretty brutal when he was opposed; and that he hardly covers himself in glory over the whole affair. The events at Northampton do read more like some kind of school bully whipping up the crowd than the affairs of state. I'd still argue, though, that the definition of a tyrant is someone who places his own interests over those of the state, and I think Henry's basic motivation was to achieve efficiency and clarity of the law, for example. After all, on of the consequences of Becket's resistance is the rather daft benefit of the clergy which we would have been much better without. But of course other views are available!

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